Hello!

[Socketassault]

Hi everyone!
About me:
I'm 15, and I've built an astounding TWO Guillow's models...haha!
I built the Wright Flyer, and a group I'm in gave everyone a "Flyboy" Kit to build...pretty simple .
I like video games
I like airplanes, and built lots of the plastic models...


Anyway, I have two questions.

1. I am bored and wanted a project. I decided to build a "double Flyboy", sort of like a p-38 Lightning. My plan was to basically build two fuselages, and twice the wing...amount/area. Is my method of thinking wrong? I think it should work...I don't know. My dad thinks that something is wrong with the idea, but he doesn't know what...

2. I need tissue to cover the thing...obviously. I don't have any left from my previous models, and I don't have any decent hobby shops that carry "japanese tissue". I've already read that you shouldn't use "wrapping tissue" and such...but...I really don't want to spend four dollars on two sheets plus shipping...
So, the question is...has it been done before? Is it possible...If it is...I'm pretty sure I could do it.

Anyway, thanks for reading...

[Socketassault]

Is there no edit option?

[supercruiser]

Welcome,
Glad to see young folks are interested in building model airplanes.
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That double flyboy sounds very ambitious. Twin rubber models are difficult to trim properly. You may have a difficult time developing the structure between the two fuselage booms. Have you ever built a flying balsa model before? Maybe you should build the Flyboy as per the plans. I had a lot of fun with mine many years ago.

Guillow sells extra tissue. I use wrapping paper tissue sometimes. It does o.k. for me. There are suppliers of Japanese tissue or esaki.

Paul

[Socketassault]

Oh yes..I've already built the Flyboy... I'm jsut basically copying the pieces now, and making a duplicate..

The flyboy has four main parts
Fuselage "F"
Left Tip "L"
Right tip "R"
Center wing "C"

So, what I wanted to do was:

LCFCCFCR

I originally wanted to do this because my first Flyoy turned out kind of crappy (ripped tissue, bad gluing) and it did a really hard left everytime that I couldn't fix by bending the Rudder.
I know the turn was caused by the propeller spin, so I decided that two counter rotating propellers would cancel each other out, thus resulitng in a perfect straight flight...lol (if it works ha!)
I already carved both of the propellers..I carved them, sanded them, hardened them with this "wood hardener stuff", and then covered them in alcohol diluted epoxy to protect them.

Thank you for the tissue advice, I'll be buying some soon then!

[thymekiller]

Welcome Socketassult!
For someone with only two models , you seem to have a pretty good grasp on many points. Thats GREAT!!!
Its o.k. to experiment with anything you want. Thats how you learn. If your plane goes left and you believe its because of prop rotation, try "aiming" the prop to the right. Its called prop thrust and it was tough for me to learn. Most single prop planes [ models ] require 3 degrees down and 3 degrees right. Thats a good place to start. I dont know about twins, except that they are even harder. [ for me ]
Experiment with prop thrust and see what happens. Also, when you make changes, only make small changes and make them one at a time. That way you know exctly what each change does. One degree of change in prop angle can make a world of differance. Good luck, and let us know how it comes out.
One other thing, single prop, high single wing craft are the easyest to fly. More wings or low wings get harder.
The germans , in ww2, built a plane on the same princple as you describe. They tryied to use it to launch a very big glider. They took a pair of twin engined planes and added a motor in the middle where the wings came together. 5 engines. Didnt work so well. Very hard to fly.

thymekiller

[Socketassault]

Thanks for the tips. The "aiming" thing sounds interesting.
I bought some tissue now so I'll experiment a little bit to see how to attach it the best..

[thymekiller]

Theres a million ways to do everything. For me, the quickest, cheapest way to cover is tissiue from craft stores and elmers glue stick.

eric

[TJH]

Hello,
It is great to see younger people interested! I am 47 now and I started when I was about 12 (if I can remember that far). I have tried all the other stuff, R/C, control line, etc... however I recently returned to free flight rubber powered for the simplicity and the satisfaction of creating a flying model.
Have fun and enjoy! You also have some cool ideas!

[Socketassault]

Haha, thanks!

[Socketassault]

The germans , in ww2, built a plane on the same princple as you describe. They tryied to use it to launch a very big glider. They took a pair of twin engined planes and added a motor in the middle where the wings came together. 5 engines. Didnt work so well. Very hard to fly.

thymekiller

I was looking through my "World's Strangest Aircraft" book, and I came across that plane.
It is a Heinkel He 111Z Zwilling five-engined twoing aircraft...The plane looks...really...awkward....

[thymekiller]

As I understand it, it was as tough to fly as it looked. The cool spot is the plane it was designed to tow. Worlds largest glider in ww2. Then they put engines and rocket power on the glider.
The glider was called Gigant. [Hope I spelled that right.] Great plane to model. Check it out. As far as crazy looking prop planes, The nazis had it happening. Their cause was wacked, but their planes ruled the sky, for awhile.

thymekiller

[Socketassault]

Yeah, my grandpa's brother was shot down and killed in the Luftwaffe.

I'm half german, so I have relatives over there, and you spelled it right.

[BillParker]

Heinkel He 111 Z (Zwilling)




Messerschmitt-321 Gigant

[Greyhound]

That is the wierdest airplane I have ever seen.

[Socketassault]

Yep, that's the one in my book.