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What started you building model airplanes?

Postby woundedbear » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:14 pm

Late last night, I was replying to a thread, I was almost falling asleep at the time, and wrote something that gave me this :idea: . This is when I started model building for the first time, I hope everyone will contribute and have some fun :lol: recalling our school :P
With me it started even before I lost my father, but really began in earnest after I started the first grade.
I was always different, well I was a weird kid. I didn't have any interest in sports like the other little boys, they were into Baseball, but were leaning toward Football, as was much of the country. While all of my friends were thinking about playing Baseball like Mickey Mantle, or playing Football with the Green Bay Packers. I want to do only one thing, to be a fighter pilot. I didn't just fly the hottest airplanes, I wanted to design them too. While I should have been learning my numbers and letters, I was far away. Flying a fast, sleek fighter plane, shooting down the bad guys, or building our country's latest super fighter, in a top secret hanger hidden from the bad guys, at the local airfield. Of course there were other things too, race cars, tanks, but for the most part it was airplanes. Airplanes were all I ever thought about, the only thing was of any importance to me.
Then there were the teachers, English, and Math. Yucky stuff that didn't interest me at all... Well then there was one bright spot, History, in history class I could talk about something that was really relevant to me, combat aviation, this was something I knew something about. But there was always the darkness close at hand Math, and English, GOD I HATED those subjects!
At the time I could not understand why anyone would want to learn about those things, after all, I could write my name and as for Math if you put a $ sign in front of the numbers, I could add, subtract, multiply, and divide with the best of 'em. I just couldn't be bothered with such trivial things like Math and English. I was doing important stuff here! Designing the airplanes that our country would need if we ever to beat the bad guys, "the Communist!". And who could fly those important airplanes, the guys who designed them in the first place!
So there I was, drawing fighter planes, and race car of course,"there would be a time when the whole world was free, and we would be needing something to do, and that was racing!"
My view of the world was a vary narrow one then of course. I would in time learn about other things, economics, social issues, air pollution, water pollution, land pollution, overpopulation, crime, and drugs, the list could go on and on!
But what brought us all to this forum? We want to build flying model airplanes, from kits, we want to build better airplanes from the kits that, the good folks at Guillows produce, But there is more isn't there? We, "well me anyway", want to learn enough to design a airplane of our own. And one day who knows...Building something bigger, something that we can fly our selves, a real airplane of our own design, and then after that it's faster, higher, farther.
Some come on all of you dreamers, fess'up what got you started in this most wonderful of hobbies!
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby tpwpny » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:43 pm

Nice topic idea - I'll pitch in:

I'm on my first balsa model but my inspiration goes way back.

When I was young, my Dad used to take me to the RC & model airplane show at our local convention center every year. We'd see fantastic model RC planes and some freeflight planes too. We're talking early to mid-70s, before lots of our modern RC technology. With some more inspiration from our local hobby shop, my Dad bought a balsa kit (Guillows or Dumas, I think) and we built it together (more like me watching him.) I remember him getting to the tissue phase, but I think he gave up because I don't remember much after that.

Fast forward about 40 years... my interest in aviation stayed alive and, having never been able to afford the Private Pilot's License I've dreamed of, I started buying the occasional dime-store stick model to fly with my daughter. Summoning up some patience for craftwork that I've never had, I took some time on a plastic Cessna 172 two years ago. I babied it, and it came out surprisingly nice.

After my Dad passed away last year, I thought it fitting to ask my wife & daughter for a Guillow's Cessna 170 kit this past Christmas, in tribute to what my Dad and I didn't finish.

I've finished the model, and preparing to field it when the weather turns. And here I am!
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby woundedbear » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:50 pm

Hello! tpwpny Thanks for your reply! I've got a few years on you I'm in a holding pattern at 58 summers. Sounds like you're Dad was a cool guy, I lost my Daddy before my 4 birthday but can still remember him taken me to the airfield at Hampton Va. Airplanes are all I ever thought about as a boy, my Mom started buying me model airplanes when I was really too young to build them. But i spent many a fun time with Guillow's stick and sheet balsa wing flyers. I have several planes in the works, at last count 7 plastic and 4 Guillow's kits. The 4 Guillow's planes are framed up and weighting for finish sanding and covering. I hope some of the other guys come in with their stories. For me building is the most fun, crashing comes in at a close second. It's all about having fun. OK guys come clean, what got you started in this fantastic hobby! Inquiring minds want to know :lol:
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Bill Gaylord » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:56 pm

Dad was WW2 Army Air Corps in Southern Italy, who initially got me interested in P47s, P38s, and P51s. He built a Dumas P26 for me back around 1976, which actually looked a lot better and was the exact box scheme, before I recovered it. I eventually got it flying well, as an electric r/c conversion.
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby woundedbear » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:16 am

That was a great posting Bill! Hats off to your father for serving this country, and being such a great Dad! OK guys everybody has a story let's hear from all of you!
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby NcGunny » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:56 am

When I was like 10 yrs old,we had went on a picnic. I had been walking in the woods around the park and found a B17 on the ground. I dragged it to our picnic spot and took it home. The place was close to a local private club airport and my grandpa had went up there and found out who had lost the plane. Turns out that on Sundays all the pilots in the club flew RC planes and I had found one.(in those days RC was big $$$$) Well a guy showed up at the house and told me it was his plane he lost. Turns out he was the owner of a Hobby Shop in Richmond,Va. Gave me 100.00 dollar bill but I wanted the plane instead..lol. SOoo..he came back that night and gave me a kit (Guillows Fokker),dope, Ambroid, some razor blades and a very early style Xacto type knife and blades. That man stayed my friend for the next 30 years, he was my best man when I first got married, always was waiting for me when I returned home from a deployment. Even got me started into styrene models which spanned 25+ years...lol. enuf of this..I have a Wakefield to get busy on!
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Chris A. » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:18 pm

My dad wasn't a flyer, but had an early love of aviation which he passed on to me. He was 14 when Lindberg flew the Spirit of St. Louis and really got into aviation. My grandfather encouraged him and combined with an interest in cars, dad stayed interested to the point I have a picture he took at the 1930's Cleveland Air Races. During WWII dad continued his work at Eastman Kodak running AAF tests on photo recon cameras and film. He bought up surplus recognition models and hung them in my room. My first kit was a Strombecker solid wood Piper Cub that I received as a birthday present when I was 7. I built a lot of solids and then started flying a Walker AJ Hornet. I still have one, 60 years later. The first free flight kit was a Comet Spitfire. A few years back I went to the FAC Nationals in Geneseo which restored my itch to build again. As related in an earlier post I still have the Guillows Nieuport 28 I gave to my dad for Christmas that never was finished. Then three of us in the neighborhood got into 1/2A control line. I lost interest in balsa stick in my teen's but later built a few plastic models. I built a Guillows SE 5A for a friend 15 years ago. Recently, with new grandsons, I've built a Guillows P40 and Hurricane for their rooms. I have a replica kit of a Comet Globe Swift that I'll build up for my granddaughter. At present my grandsons are more into blocks and Legos so it will be a time before they start, but I'll have something for them. They do have an interest in airplanes as they live close to the air museum in Virginia beach. I now have a collection of kits I want to build, some to fly. Nate Sturman and I had several nice conversations regarding Japanese aircraft prior to his passing so I have a couple of kits to build that he recommended. I'll have plenty to do when I retire. This site and especially this post has been a lot of fun and brings back many nice memories.
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby woundedbear » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:12 pm

Hello! McGunny and Chris A. great postings! This is fun isn't it? Come on you other guys keep the ball rolling :P
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Bill Gaylord » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:49 am

My first balsa build story is even more entertaining. :D After dad built the Peashooter, I figured I'd have a try at it. I found a Comet Aeronca that was in my 12 year old price range, not realizing that the low price was due to being printwood. I thought all kits were die-cut. Who would want printwood? That build was a complete mess, although I did manage to build something that looked a bit like wing panels, with covering. I finally tossed the parts just a few years ago. I still have a little peanut scale Druine Turbulent, that is a bit better and actually flew short distances, built shortly afterward.
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby davidchoate » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:52 pm

I was born This way. I think all people passionate about Aviation are. My earliest memories as a toddler were of seeing Groups of Biplanes "Sky Writing" Advertisments in smoke. I was also, like Woundebear, "different" as a child. My friends would be playing sports (not that I did'nt. I was in a kids Football league, but the unprofessional backyard games I thought senseless.I got up at 5am for a few years to finance things like RC radios, Plane kits(no RTF then): I had a telescope and would observe the moon, and astronomy. I was reading Bertrand Russell at 12 yrs. old. I remember Him describing a tree as a build up of molecules and atoms and until then thought I was crazy because I had thought of these ideas of perception on My own. I'm not saying I'm a Genius, but I know I am more thirsty bfor knowledge than the average kid then. I was Quiet Shy, and could not relate to ,or communicate with others very well. But I was cursed with good looks, aND NO MATTER HARD i TRIED ONE OF THOSE fEMALE CREATURES GOT TO mE, AND RUINED mY dREAM. i PLANNED ON A rotc cOLLEGE, AND THEN LEARN aVIONICS, AND AIRCRAFT REPAIR. i OF COURSE WANTEDS TO fLY, BUT mY STRONGER INTEREST WAS IN aEROPLANE dESIGN. But I got a horrible Shrew of a girl pregnant, and She put a 18 year jail sentence on My dreams. ^ years ago My daughter turned 18, and I got a divorce. Immediately went to the LHS, and picked up right where I left Off. Being a persoin who is intelligent is not a joyous thing always. I think it was Voltaire Who spoke of His envy of the Village Idiot laughing and happy as can be in His pure ignorance. The Truth is often painful, and it is hard work to discover and acquire knowledge, but like Him; in the end I'd take the painful despair of reality over blissful ignorance anyday.But,yes, We are born this way. My Uncle Flew C-130,s before during and after Vietnam, and His Son is now a Pilot in the Airforce Flying The lkarger Cargo Plane. Forget its name. I,m honestly a little bitter of what might have been, but I have My models, My freedom, Time, And resources, and most of all. I never lost the thirst for Flight. For understanding Aircraft. Of all types. A Cessna turns Me on as much as a P-51. Sorry for the Ramblings, but It's seems to be a topic that can not be summed up in a few sentences.
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Balsa Pilot » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:40 pm

Yes to all who were born this way, and yes, I'll take it, for whatever it's worth and wherever it takes me.
One great great uncle who flew in the R.F.C in WW1, and my two great uncles that started me down the aviation runway. one flying night fighters in the Luftwaffe and the other as aircrew in RAF bomber Command, talk about the stories! Happily they got along whenever they were together. Then an uncle starts in with taking me up in a C-150 back in the 60's- this was just to make sure the hook was firmly set. So it's been a lifetime of dreaming, drawing, flying, and since having retired, a return to building and flying model aircraft. The model aircraft hobby seems to be the most demanding, and intense, yet entertaining hobby one could undertake.
The same uncle got me going with Guillow's kits as an early teen, more or less successfully. While in high school building any glider(cheaper) I could get my hands on, with a few attempts at Guillow's 900 series, o1E Bird Dog and Chipmunk. All flew in various forms, some better than others. I can still remember flying control line at the family farm and being fall-on-my-face dizzy after landing whatever bird it was..or a glider(line launched) spiralling up and up, and thinking," how cool is this but oh oh what if??"
My uncle is now in hospital (palliative care) so I thought I'd build him a Guillow's Aeronca Champ (he got his licence in one) so he can look at it, and remember what he loves.
I can't wait to see his face when I walk in with it.
Building, and flying models are an escape for me where all the regular day to day cares slowly evaporate and I am left to concentrate on whatever challenge each aircraft presents me. My latest aircraft is a Aichi type-99 VAL, with a 30" w/s, with laminated leading and trailing edges, and THAT problem is now behind me, (thanks for all the helpful input all).

Every time I look at or pickup one of these aircraft it takes me back to listening to them, imagining, remembering, and being right there as I launch another new one for it's first set of test-glides, or the anticipation when you add those first hundred turn launches.......THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A HOBBY folks, it's a time machine, and a transporter to happier times where we can see loved ones, a dream vehicle to contest and wage aerial battles, solve problems, and on and on. I don't think it gets any better than this. Well, the hobby gets better as I gain experience and get to be a better builder so the aircraft begin to fly better, but that's what it's all about right?
This was a good idea WB, but once you get started, there's no telling where you"ll end up!

Thanks for the chance to contribute!
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Mitch » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:47 pm

I think we had a similar post before, but I'll re tell my story here, and expand upon it. With my Dad as a Flight Engineer for TWA, planes have been a part of all my life. After flying some gliders and those little wind up planes Guillow's made, I thought I wanted more. At the age of 10, I saved up my meager allowance and bought my first real kit. A series 100 Fokker D-8. The 'Flying Razor'. I bought it at a corner 'Candy Store' I remember it was .99 and I had coins to make 1.00. But with 2 cent sales tax the price was over my budget at 1.01. I suppose with me not understanding tax and the look on my face, the owner said he would put in the penny for me. He must have enjoyed the look on my face for the price of that penny. So with plywood as a building board and a razor from my Dad (Be careful sharp edge on both sides...YIKES) and sewing pins from Mom, and Plastic glue from Testor's I went to work. Thinking back I am amazed I built the kit. I never attempted to fly it The wing kept coming off as I did not understand the purpose of the gussets on the cabane struts. And I did not wet and shrink the paper...what a mess, but it was a fun wind up toy that scooted across the basement floor.

My next model was the 100 series SE5. I remember this came out better and I tried to fly the plane. I was just a powered crash to the ground knocking the landing gear off. But it was in the air. Next I tried to get a friend to join in a build. I was building the Fokker D-7 and him the Sopwith Camel. We planned to have a dogfight at a park. He was my best friend and always had better grades, but he could not figure out how to build the model. That gave me some pride, since I realized one does not have to be a scholar, but have some common sense. And you can do well at something you love to do and put your efforts to that goal.

But I so longed to have a plane fly in mock combat. My dream came true last year. I re built the SE5 (see post here on the build) Making some modifications, I planned the model for my entry as WW 1 Mass Launch at WEST FAC 5. At the Mass launch there were about 25 planes. 12 Fokker D-7's against 12 SE-5's and 5a's, with one lone Bristol Scout. It was my moment I was waiting for almost 50 years. Just before the mass launch I dropped my prop in the grass. (OH NO!) with time ticking and everyone searching, someone found my prop just in time...off to the field we went. I wound the motor on my little SE5 as much as I dared and then 1,2,3 off the planes went. My little .99 cent (bought on ebay for 20 dollars) Guillow SE-5 flew around with all the other planes circling in mock combat. The Fokkers and Se5's climbing and turning. I could see a few planes coming down...mine was still flying... but soon followed. I was 'shot down' eliminated in the first round, but felt my little plane performed so well. It really brought tears to my eyes as I watched the next 2 rounds of combats with the Aces fighting to the end.

After the fray my friend Don DeLoach who won with his Bristol Scout (kit is 150.00) came to me and gave me a necklace. The necklace is a piece of leather shoelace with a doughnut magnet. He said "Mitch, wear this and when your hands are full, you put your prop to the magnet and you have it and will never loose it." So I will always wear that now and I have one hand for my model and the other for my winder and the prop is hanging on my neck!

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My 100 series SE5, built from Guillow's kit, Flew in the WW 1 Mass Launch in Buckeye Arizona, October 2015... 100 years after the plane flew over France.

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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby woundedbear » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:45 pm

Thanks for all of the replies! I have found great comfort in knowing that I am not alone in this," Magnificent Obsession " :D You can keep all of the video games, you can even take away the TV but please don't ever take away my model airplanes. It's just like one of you said this is more than a hobby, this building and flying model aircraft is a life enrich, time machine that takes me to a time when life made some kind of sense. A time when the high point of my day was when my father got home from the shipyard, smelling of electric arc welding and headed for the shower. Of course, first, he had to run the gauntlet of my older brother and sister and me all of us so happy," Daddy's home from work, and let the good times roll "! First thing out of my mouth was always the same thing, " Daddy let's go to the airfield to see the airplanes " :P But first things first Daddy's got to get a shower and then it's suppertime. My Mother was a great cook and we all loved the meals she prepared for us, by the time Daddy got his shower Mama would have just set the table. Mama could sure do that good old southern style of cooking. Daddy and us kids would make short work of her homemade biscuits and all of the other southern culinary delights. Then it was what folks today call quilty time, but back then it was simply being a good parent. Then of I got my way it was off to the airfield to watch the magical flying machines, landing and taking off it didn't much matter to me I would take in the whole thing the sights, the sounds, the smells everything. My Father was a perfectionist and so was my Mother, I guess that's why I'm an obsessive person. Looking back on things now I realize that what my parents were really good at was living and enjoying being a team, my Father and Mother were born into hard times, they were both children of the great depression and came of age during the second world war. By the end of those times, everyone wanted to catch up on lives that were postponed by the times they had lived through. They were at last free of hard times and war and were eager to get on with life and living. It was just like the old newsreels of FDR telling the people that," we would win this war and we would win the peace that followed ". It was all about families, but it ended so suddenly. All of the working 14 and 16-hour shifts during the war caught with my Father and he died suddenly from a blood clot that had formed in his lung during a bad case of pneumonia. My Mother never fully recovered and it left it's mark on me, but one thing has remained with me those warm lazy summer afternoons at the airfield with my Daddy watching the airplanes taking off and landing. Of course, life goes on, my Mother use to buy me those little Guillows rubber powered stick airplanes with the red propellers, through the worst times I have ever known there has always been those Guillows rubber powered stick airplanes. Even now as I am an old man, older than my Father was when he died, there is something magical about winding up the red props of a Guillows stick and balsa sheet winged airplane and watching it fly. They are the simplest of things that fly, but when you have one trimmed just right and the rubber motor wound as tight as you dare, you give it just a little push and away it goes, floating on the lightest breeze, and just when you think it's going to land it bumps into a small thermal and it is just like your a child again watching it stretch into a longer flight. It's hard to believe but Guillows has been making the dreams of little children come true for a long time and Guillows has been doing this since before my Mother was born! If I were a wealthy man I would buy stock it this company, just so they,"Guillows", can keep on making that magic happen for kids for more generations to come.
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Re: What started you building model airplanes?

Postby Chris A. » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:38 pm

I've enjoyed reading other stories about modeling experiences and thought I'd add this comment. Building models was back then and still is a great learning experience. You learned to organize what materials you needed to build the model, organized your work area, learned (often the hard way) how to read instructions, what the plans meant and often you were on your own. Then you learned how to actually build something, you learned patience, and you acquired pride in craftsmanship. The proof was in the finished plane and you could take great pride in something you built yourself. You knew when you got it right, nice try just didn't cut it if you had pride in your effort. I will do it better next time. There is a big difference between the $.69 Guillows and the current prices, but for me the price is still only 3 fast food meals I can skip. It helped getting along with my parents as I was doing an activity where they could see I was really trying hard. Dad's comment "that really looks good" meant the world. Just yesterday I drove past our fairgrounds and there was what looked like a dad and his kid just finishing up flying an RC. The kid was flying and dad was going out to pick it up. It's important. Next weekend in Meadville PA is the annual RoboBots competition where high school teams of boys and girls build battery powered radio controlled metal robots that try to wreck each other. The local tool and die firms sponsor this for about 500 kids and supply materials and mentoring engineers. The competition generates a whole lot of kids that acquire electronic, computer control, machining and building skills along with really good teamwork (pit crew) skills. It's not unusual to have an entire gym full to the rafters with parents, teachers and yes, cheerleaders. Cable TV and newspaper coverage too. Serious bragging rights to the winners and sponsors.
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