No. 401 LC Messerschmitt Bf 109 C "Cäser" conversi

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Postby jensheydel » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:23 am

So now we are covered and for my first attempt with a glue stick it worked great. No stink no fuss no muss, and it holds like you would not believe.

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A little bit of steam to shrink the Guillows paper and good to go. Now we can spray a light coat of dope onto this and the stabilizer is good to go for now.

Thorn3, now why is it I just knew telling you about this build thread was a mistake LOL .. I just knew you would heckle LOL. Besides where is YOUR build Mr engineer to the stars??? LOL :-P

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Postby thorn3 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:27 am

I can't needle you in person anymore, so I have to find other outlets! :)

Covering looks good. Describe or show this glue stick you used. The paper appears to be similar in color to the hinges. I imagine you will paint her. Are the hinges a paintable material?

Still waiting on that shipment. It's only been two weeks, but sure feels like forever!
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Postby jensheydel » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:23 am

Hey there Thorn3,

Sucks having to wait forever for a damn little model so you can only end up tearing it apart to design your own RC plane out of it. Lots of work there. The glue stick is a commercial product I normally use to permanently glue printouts from test equipment I use at work (particle counters). This stuff once dry will likely last till the next ice age. It is from Pro-Office, and I get it directly through work. One stick likely will build dozens of planes. The printouts at work are required to be in the protocols I write and must be permanently stuck there for inspectors to view (raw data). Seeing that once dry this stuff is more or less bulletproof I figured it would be ideal (better than the far more common UHU stick) and so far it is perfect. Solvent can do nothing to it and water will only dissolve it over a period of hours.

Cheers, Jens
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Postby thorn3 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:10 am

That is a really interesting application of that type of glue stick! Really good to know. Holding up to steaming is very promising too.
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Postby jensheydel » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:49 pm

Alright some minor mods for the sake of stability at the rear of the plane.

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Here a small teardrop shaped panel has been added to the top of the rear fuselage, this is where the horizontal stabilizer sits, doing this gives the stab a good strong surface to sit on. Btw. the angle of this part should be changed if you intend to fly RC. 2 degrees will do it to give a 0 degree incidence angle (tipped downwards at the rear of the plane).

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Some 0.6 mm thick balsa will hold this new part in place as well.

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Moistening the thin balsa allows the curves, the sheeting was sanded flush to the surrounding panels and the two light and small blocks of balsa sanded to shape finish up the leading edge of this mod. Here it is with the stabilizer planted. The extension at the front is actually where the vertical stabilizer will sit, looks unusual right now since the vertical stabilizer is not on there yet.

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And the view from the bottom.

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Postby jensheydel » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Alright I am unsure if this is how to post a video here ... so if it does not work... blame me :-) (who else) Theoretically if you click on the pic below it will take you to Photobucket so can see 33 seconds of this thing doing its thing.

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Elevator with cable pull/pull control. The two cables are tensioned via the two small screws in the servo arm. These two screws have tiny holes directly below the heads to allow the cable to be attached (lots of fun to make those little holes LOL). The control arm on the elevator is self made out of thin ply.

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Postby Supercubber95 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:59 pm

Awesome job! These Germans... They may talk funny, but they can build an airplane like they are going outta style!!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby thorn3 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:12 pm

I couldn't see the transition from servo plane to elevator in the video. Nice work though! What is the ticking sound?

Can you show a detail shot of the servo assembly and a horizontal shot of the tail?
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Postby ADW 123 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:15 pm

i believe the ticking nose is just the servo gears clicking together. on some servos they always have electricity to the little motors inside them. when you are not putting an inpute into the remote, they are just trying to turn. i hade some servos like this and its nothing to worry about.
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Postby Supercubber95 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:16 pm

Sorry Jens, I meant Diese Deutschen ... Sie können sprechen, lustig, aber sie können ein Flugzeug zu bauen, wie sie ausgehen werden von Stil!
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Postby jensheydel » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:04 pm

Thanks guys, Thorn I will post another pic later of exactly that. I am guessing you would like to know where the other half of the pull/pull is right? The little noise was a piece of covering that was sticking out (sanded off now LOL). Ah another Google translation LOL.

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Postby Supercubber95 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:51 pm

Ay? You mean it don't say what it should?
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Postby jensheydel » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:52 am

Supercubber, those online translation tools will give your reader an approximate idea of what it is you are getting at. I have the advantage of speaking both my native German and your American English fluently so I can see what you are getting at ... a non-english speaking person trying to read an online translation will likely get lost. Things like grammar and sentence structure or slang are not reflected in those translation tools.

The expression "... like it's going outta style" for instance cannot be translated directly to German as the sentence loses its meaning due to it being a slang terminology that is not used as such here. Instead what the program should have given was "... als ob es kein morgen gibt." or "... was das Zeug hält". Translate both of those back to English and one will make some sense the other likely none at all yet the meaning is still there.

But nonetheless I appreciate the effort made :-)

Chjeers, jens
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Postby thorn3 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:36 am

LOL! My adventures in Germany started with learning one sentence: "Ich kan nicht Deutsche sprechen". Although, some jokers would grin and respond by saying "You just did"!

It sounded as if the ticking was external to the drive. Good to hear it was just a piece of paper covering.
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Postby Phugoid » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:20 am

I once read a technical paper that had been translated from German to English. I have a feeling that it could well have been translated from another language before that.

One part of it said "turn the chicken on, and then monitor the pressure"

Chicken I thought!, What the......? So I looked at the diagram, it showed a tap, or "cock" in the experiment........now what is a male chicken called?... :lol:

I speak a little German, I was taught it at school until I was 16, and appreciate that the structure of a German sentence with the placement of the verbs in the past and future tenses makes things a bit tricky for on line translations.....

I'm not a big RC guy (in fact my local club is all FF and contol line (u control) and I was told that remote control is "punishable by death"!) But it really does look nice what you are doing with this kit Jens. I continue to watch with interest.

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