Had an Idea. Please Read!

[Phugoid]

I haven't built a Guillows kit for a while, and I've got kit 601 the cessna 180 in my cupboard.

Now these 600 kits are good for rubber flight in my opinion, I built the Piper Cub and it flew great, also Scigs Built the 180 and it was absolutely smashing.

They are good for the following reasons:

1) The prop although smallish for the span, is big enough for 30s or so flights (in most Guillows kits the prop is far too small).

2) The die cut wood is 1/20" (rather than the more normal 1/16"so even if it is on the dense side the weight is not too much for it to fly

3) Relatively Easy to construct

4) Everything is in the kit that you need (apart from Glue dope and decent rubber - see bad things!)

5) The basic design is sound

6) They are extraordinarily good value for money

They are bad because:

1) The rubber is rubbish, it wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.

2) The die cutting is a bit suspect and you have to repair some of the parts (mainly the wing ribs)

3) The tissue colours are boring (the box art shows nice yellow and blue and you get white and grey.

Now to get a flyer (ie not too worried about good looks) the only the rubber is the issue. So for me this is the ideal kit as a primer, a motivator if you will.

Having hung around this forum for a while I noticed that so many folks get disheartened when their birds won't fly, then they don't carry on with the hobby. Sometimes I think that it is because they go for the low winged warbirds, which are not ideal to start with. The 180 is a nice stable high winger.

So Here is the idea: Any one who is interested goes out and buys a 180 form your LHS. Then we all build it at the same time. For the experienced builders we can show off our different methods advnantages/disadvantages, and the less experienced guys follow along, ask questions and spark some debate.


Is there any interest?

I would suggest the following simple rule:

Only the bits in the kit to be used aside from say printer paper, glue and dope. PLUS some decent rubber.

That would be it!

I will use Banana oil to seal on mine, perhaps Scigs or ADW (if they join in) would use something more available in the U.S. or perhaps one of the alternative sealers. (I'm from England you see)

I think if we can get this off the ground (excuse the pun) it would act as a super reference for newbies, we'd all have fun building and chewing the fat (yaking!) and you never know we could have something that Mark could use for publicity purposes to get more folks into this fine but now negelcted hobby of ours.

I dunno what do others think? is it impossible? is there sufficient interest?

Let me know what you all think...

Kind Regards to you all.

Andrew

[SteveM]

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[Phugoid]

Thanks Guys. SteveM, no problem. I get your point completely and you are100% right I was so intent on getting the idea down, I didn't think much about the title.

I suppose once I get some feedback from you "regulars" (who will more likely than not read the post anyhow), then I'd move it on and perhaps "advertise" a bit better....

I like bullet points. I do alot of business presentations and technical sales material, they always seem to work for me.

I sort of like the title David BUT we don't really want the Phugoid do we!? te he

I gave up on the G chalange, I started the build but Gave up because of the appaling quality of the kit, the sooner they make them laser the better!

http://balsamodels.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

And Alex if you are watching, I'd probbably suggest a really long notice period to give everyone the chance to get tooled up and ready to go.

Let's see what happens, if nobody steps up, or it just isn't practical I might just do the build anyhow.

Andrew

[SteveM]

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[Phugoid]

Hi SteveM,

I think that you are awarded extra points for using the kit wood, I did try!

Same here for the Flying weather, so no hurry to start, hey perhaps after Christmas? Everyone could ask for a kit from Santa?!

Say Steve you sound interested, are you the first possible conscript?

[Phugoid]

on the Joke

Awe go on Dave give it a go, you never know I might even do a static after?!

Andrew

[MakMov]

Good idea, I would be in. I might even have a kit in the pile.

[SteveM]

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[ADW 123]

Come on David. Give it a shot. You never know... I would build a plane David Duckett stile any day, and also build a plane phugoid style any day. It would be interesting to see someone try something new or in any case different from the norm. you might love it....

[ADW 123]

lol. I got your joke second time around David

[MakMov]

I am going to do it. I need the practice. I have to get a kit, I don't have that one.

[goose]

Cool, i have a Cessna 180 that I picked up at Disneyland last month. Sounds like fun.

[Phugoid]

Nice as always David,

We may have long grass, but during the winter the ground turns to concrete!

Ice in tea? Hot with Milk Please! Brrrrrrrr....

Andrew

[MakMov]

I got a kit so I am good to go

[Phugoid]

Ok if you are in for the build then I'll create a thread called "Cessna 180 Build sign up". Just post a yes, yup, ok etc, no chit chat on that one then we can keep a simple clear record of who is in....

Andrew