DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby kittyfritters » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:44 am

cutter wrote:ImageImage
Slow and steady progress. I did not use a fixture, looks straight to me.
Next a couple more formers, bending wire and then the stringers.

Adam


There is a reason that the fuselage of a properly laid out laser cut kit, using half former construction, will build straighter than a die cut kit.

Dies are expensive, and subject to tolerances, so when you lay out the parts for a die cut kit, you do half the formers on a sheet of wood. This reduces the cost of making the die and, because there is only one half former die for each former, assures that each half former is the same size as it's opposite half. The disadvantage is that each half former is cut from a different sheet of wood and there is almost no way that each sheet of wood will have the same density, stiffness and response to moisture in the air. Thus you usually must use a fixture when building to eliminate "banana fuselage".

With laser cutting there is no physical die, and each image of the former half is the same size, even if reversed, so the proper thing to do is lay out both halves of the formers on the same sheet of wood. This eliminates the built in propensity to warp. Some may argue that a single sheet of balsa can vary in density and stiffness from one end to the other but a proper laser cut layout puts both halves of a former pair next to each other, interleaved if possible, so that each half former is cut from approximately the same piece of real estate on the balsa sheet. If you have a dead flat building board and you are careful to get the former halves perpendicular to the vertical keel, a laser cut kit will build straight.

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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby cutter » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:33 pm

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Fuselage is built. I think I am getting better at wire bending finally.
Looks like a lot of wood, hope it flies.

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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby kittyfritters » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:39 pm

Adam,

From the photo it would seem that the production kit instructions are not clear about what happens at the tail end. Hopefully, this photo will clear that up.

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The stringer immediately above the side keel is supposed to attach to the backbone keel at the same level as the bottom of the cutout for the stabilizer creating a level platform for the stabilizer. The stringers below the side keel are tapered into the backbone keel as shown then sanded to a rounded contour. The stringers immediately above and below the curve in the bottom of the fuselage side end at the last former, the stringer at the middle of the curve continues on to the keel. Ideally, you should apply them long, then trim and glue them into place after the glue is set on the formers.

Yes, that is a lot of wood, as this photo of a completed frame shows.

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But, if the production standards have been maintained, it is relatively light wood.

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Built with the kit materials and no excess paint. (I usually do colored tissue and tissue trim.) the finished weight should be 44-45 grams, less rubber and ballast. Ballasted to glide well and with the black prop, a properly lubricated motor of two loops of 1/8", flat, SIG, tan, sport rubber (about twice the hook to peg length) it should weigh 55-60 grams and should easily fly 30 seconds at that weight on 1000-1500 turns. If you use a little more power (3/16" rubber) and a better prop to get it up higher it will surprise you!

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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby cutter » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:30 pm

Thanks for all the help and information Howard. I don't think is was the instructions, I think it
was just me making a mistake. The other side of the plane looks correct. Not sure what happened.
I will fill in the hole that I missed.

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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby granpa » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:25 am

Howard, I noticed you did not use the paper filler between the rudder and stabilizer. how did you deal with the gap? I am just about done with my Beaver and I have elected to go with the factory floats. Do you think it will fly with all of that wind resistive additional structure?
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Re: DHC-2 Beaver kit #305 LC

Postby kittyfritters » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:20 pm

granpa wrote:Howard, I noticed you did not use the paper filler between the rudder and stabilizer. how did you deal with the gap? I am just about done with my Beaver and I have elected to go with the factory floats. Do you think it will fly with all of that wind resistive additional structure?


That particular model was tacked together "in frame" with a little "green glue" for display purposes at the AMA EXPO in January. When I get back to work on it I will disassemble it with a few drops of acetone and continue covering it. After it is reassembled, covered, it will have the paper filler between the stabilizer and rudder. I plan to finish it as a model of the well known C-FCAT.

As for the floats, I designed them mainly for static display and have not flown one with floats. So many people have asked that I will have to build another one with floats to fly. I think it will need a three bladed, 6 inch prop for rubber power because there isn't enough clearance for the 7 inch prop used for most of the flight testing. Of course, if you are planning an R/C conversion, with electric power, with the components available now I don't think that any experienced modeler would have much difficulty getting it to operate off the water, let alone just fly.
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