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Peck 6" props

Postby twospruces » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:53 am

Wow, had to move fast to get some stuff from A2Z before they closed. I have a range of props in hand or on their way now.
Now, what I'm after is some 6" props and/or the PA-2 kit.

Does anyone know of a source for either? I've been checking around with no luck.

thanks,
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby WIDDOG » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:10 am

Guillow's make a 6 inch propeller. Also there is this site http://volareproducts.com/BUY/index.php ... h=56_42_50 . Volare products/Shorty's Basement.
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby Steve Blanchard » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:21 am

There are others who sold peck products but now that A to Z is closing, if no one buys the Peck side of the business then there will no longer be a source for the props to be made. Guillows props don't quite work the same as the pecks. That's all I have to say about that. There are the Czech props available from other sources that were already mentioned. Those are great props but I think more expensive. Either way, the hope is that someone has the cash to keep the Peck Polymers name alive!

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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby kittyfritters » Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:57 pm

A2Z ran out of the 6" props sometime last year. I was told that the minimum run to mold a new batch was too expensive without definite orders. They never did get another batch of them molded, The 6" prop was the most popular one they made. A few distributors still have stocks of them, but I'll bet the price just went up.

The 6" Guillow prop is heavier and a good choice if you have a model that needs both nose weight and relatively powerful rubber to fly. For models in the 20" to 28" span range the Guillow 7" black prop, the one that comes with the Beaver and Porter, is a better choice.

The EB and blue props work well but are also heavier than the Peck. The Ikara 6" prop is a bit heavy, and has a very aggressive pitch but performs extremely well in a model that can handle the rubber needed to swing it and can handle the torque. The square tipped Czech prop is probably the closest in weight and performance to the Peck.

Of course you can occasionally come across some stocks of the old North Pacific and K-Sun props on eBay or at a garage sale. Somehow, we will survive this...even if we all have to learn how to carve props again!

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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby Steve Blanchard » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:47 pm

Carved props really are the way to go! So many choices and even more satisfaction when your model flies knowing it's being pulled along by a propeller of your making. It's like catching a fish on a fly you tied. Very rewarding!
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby zoomie » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:36 pm

Besides carving your own props, they can also be built from scratch using dowel or tubing, and the blades made from laminated balsa or plastic from various food and beverage containers. Other materials are sometimes used.

Don Ross has a chapter in his book that describes the different prop making methods, and there are a few info sources on the 'net as well.


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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby twospruces » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:00 pm

well that is a shame but I get it. Might have to buy a whole airplane from peck just to get the prop!

seems like the almost 5 inch prop from pecks might be ok for a 900 series...
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby twospruces » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:03 pm

Howard, do you think that a 7 inch peck could be a good substitute for the 7 inch guillow (question mark)

sorry, my keyboard is a mess for some reason and some punctuation marks are currently not available to me....above is a question (exclamation mark)
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby davidchoate » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:24 pm

I got these old Kaysun props. look about 7 or 8", And A Sullivan starter I want to sell, as I dont plan on doing nitro again. I used it once in the 1989's. They go for $65 new nowadays. make me an offer. planecrusher@gmail.com
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby kittyfritters » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:07 am

twospruces wrote:Howard, do you think that a 7 inch peck could be a good substitute for the 7 inch guillow (question mark)

sorry, my keyboard is a mess for some reason and some punctuation marks are currently not available to me....above is a question (exclamation mark)


That is an interesting question and I just happen to have some experience with this. I flew the prototype Porter, which was about ten grams heavier than a production kit, with both the 7 inch, Guillow, black prop and a 7 inch Peck prop. The model flew best on a loop of 1/8" rubber along with a loop of 3/16" rubber. The performance with either prop was essentially the same. I would suspect, that a production weight kit (45 grams, or so) might fly better with the Peck prop on two loops of 1/8" rubber, but I haven't tried it.

The Beaver prototypes would actually fly with the 5" red prop, but fly much better with a 7" black prop or a 7" Peck prop. The Beaver will also fly, with the floats using the aggressively pitched Ikara 6" prop on a loop of 1/8" along with a loop of 3/16". ( This is hand launched. It would have to be lightened considerably to even think about R.O.W takeoffs under rubber power, although I have seen video of one flying indoors, on floats, off a gym floor). The float struts would have to be extended to get clearance for the 7" propellers.

I use the Peck 5" prop on single motor No-Cals with 1/16" rubber indoors and 3/32" rubber outdoors. I use the 4" Guillow black prop on multi-motor No-Cals with 1/16" rubber indoors and out.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby kittyfritters » Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:09 am

davidchoate wrote:I got these old Kaysun props. look about 7 or 8", And A Sullivan starter I want to sell, as I dont plan on doing nitro again. I used it once in the 1989's. They go for $65 new nowadays. make me an offer. planecrusher@gmail.com


Be very cautious with old gas power props!
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby twospruces » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:47 am

http://www.samsmodels.com/cgi-bin/cm000001.pl

Sams seems to have stock of Pecks 6 and PA-2 kit; I ordered some today.
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby davidchoate » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:20 am

My LHS has 5.5" 6" ,and all sorts of props. why is this 6" peck so special. is it the pitch or something, and I agree about hand carved props,it just needs a bit of patience and practice. I saw a documentary on the Wright Bros., and the props they hand carved were even more efficient and of closer tolerance than can be produced with the most modern laser CNC equipment . And in the wind tunnel, it was as efficient as can be,no room for improvement.
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Re: Peck 6" props

Postby scigs30 » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:38 am

I have used many props over the years and the best today have been the Peck and North Pacific props. I have a pretty good stash of both so I am doing pretty good.
Carve my own prop? I have tons of builds to complete who has the time?
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