Steve Blanchard wrote:Well Angie, unfortunately people are very protective of Guillows on this forum. If you are going to stick to nothing but Guillow's and this forum you will certainly limit yourself. You really should try the other forums such as Small Flying Arts and Hip Pocket Aeronautics. These are much more broad spectrum sites with much better information when it comes to flying in both Free Flight and RC. I don't think anyone meant to be rude it's just how it is on a corporate sponsored site. One might say it's actually fair. I enjoy Guillow's kits for the box art and the occasional decent design but the real flying ability belongs to the scratch builder and the plans sites. If that is where you want to head in this hobby then you gotta start branching out away from here. by the way there are several kit manufacturers that make good looking and flying scale models.
Steve
Those are valid points, but it all depends on what a person wants. One good thing about this site however, is that of all corporate sites, the corporation stays completely out of the site, and allows us Guillows enthusiasts to do our thing. That is very refreshing, given the advertising and controlling nature of most sponsored sites. As for Hippocket, they didn't last long form me, as the staff interrupted and disrupted my threads more than once, in manners which showed a complete lack of self control. If they were a comparable, corporate site, and you were to have made comments of similar nature pertaining to them, you would probably already have been banned there.
Given the negative mentality toward Guillows models and mass disinformation pertaining to them which is posted at many other modeling sites, it's not surprising that people here may seem a bit "protective" toward Guillows models here. Personally, I contest the disinformation that many post about the models, and show the Guillows enthusiasts how they can have success with these models, based on personal experiences and effort. Thankfully there are also free-flighters here such as Mitch that publish meaningful information pertaining to Guillows free-flight. This disinformation goes as far as numerous people who probably couldn't get anything to fly, but will still publish negative, and basically worthless information on Guillows kits, as well as model kits in general. I know you're far from one of those people, but the internet is full of that type of info.
I've found a number of the Guillows kits to actually be decent designs, big IF, as person knows what they're doing. The main issue is weight, more than anything else. Sure, many require some modification, but at the end of the day, the successful Guillows flyers tend to be some of the most knowledgeable and skilled of all. Those who take on challenges and master them are generally the people at the top. That philosophy is not taught much today. Interestingly, some of the so-called most challenging Guillows models have been excellent flyers, with a small amount of tweaking, and proper building. The "non-flying" DC3 even turned out to be an excellent flyer. I enyoy scratch building from plans sites such as Outerzone as much as any, but there is a paradox there: The people I know who become successful at that, often tend to be the types who mastered scale kit modeling first. This includes learning which tweaks are required to produce good flying models, as well as getting a heavier, sheeted scale model to fly well. To each their own, but a covered framework rendition of a metal skinned WWII warbird just doesn't get it for me.
You could ask me any time. Don't let a few people who make their own rules, dictate them to you. A number of people aren't even aware that Guillows owns the rights to some of the other model companies, many now defunct. It's not as if they're competitors, and posting about them simply promotes building balsa kits in general, and is also enjoyable for the balsa kit building enthusiasts.Angie332 wrote::wink:
I hope that no one takes what I have got to say the wrong way... I so get it that this forum is for guillows. But I thought this forum is were people like me can ask a question about any model or RC and get help. It's kinda aggravating to see someone post something about a RC or model and to see someone post thats for another forum.
I just thought I'd put that out there. Hope to not offend anyone