New kits from Guillow's?

[keepemflying]

Could there be a better first post for this new member than one which supports these re-issue kits?!?! After all, its 2017, and we find ourselves at the Centennial mark of this first World War. What better way to honor Paul K. himself than to bring back any/all of the WW1-/100-series kits, offered by Guillow, the original manufacturer of course! Suffice it to say that I'd gladly grab at least one of each! While you're at it, I might suggest some 'Dunkirk Edition' Spitfires & ME-109s (& Hurricanes of course, which actually flew over Dunkirk, even though they were not featured in the current movie). Keep 'Em Flying!!!!

[scigs30]

I actually built a vintage Camel and covered it with the kit tissue. I took her out flying and she did pretty well. I cannot imagine how well these would do with laser cut parts.
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[KirkH]

My first love (from an aviation standpoint) was WWI era planes, so I'd be inclined to buy/build whatever planes from that era are offered.

[Balsa Pilot]

Greetings to All, MARK!, hope all is well!! Any news yet on these kits re-issue? I get that you are all pretty busy what with the run-up to Christmas and all, but, As they say, Christmas is coming, and people are starting to ask what they can stuff the proverbial stocking with, and I keep hoping to be able to tell them to get one (or more)n of the WW1 Guillow'.s Bi-plane kits.....

Soooooo, what's the scoop from the man in the know?

[kittyfritters]

Balsa Pilot,

If it's really going to happen, I suggest patience. Mark just ran it up the flag pole in August. You really must have done it to realize what it takes to put a kit into production.

Howard

[Balsa Pilot]

ok Thanks Howard, my enthusiasm for a new project ran away with me, and, like you suggest - ignorance is bliss

[Marshdweller]

I would definitely be interested in this, and would buy multiple Camels.

Going off at a tangent, I'd love to see some models of the Schneider Trophy planes with an approximately 18 inch wingspan put into production.

[kittyfritters]

I would definitely be interested in this, and would buy multiple Camels.

Going off at a tangent, I'd love to see some models of the Schneider Trophy planes with an approximately 18 inch wingspan put into production.

If you actually in intend to fly them, about a 24 inch wing span would be better. Try a 500 series Rufe, and you will see why. It has a 16 inch wing span and can be made to fly with a bit of work, but at 24 inches, or so it would be much easier.

Howard

[Marshdweller]

I would definitely be interested in this, and would buy multiple Camels.

Going off at a tangent, I'd love to see some models of the Schneider Trophy planes with an approximately 18 inch wingspan put into production.

If you actually in intend to fly them, about a 24 inch wing span would be better. Try a 500 series Rufe, and you will see why. It has a 16 inch wing span and can be made to fly with a bit of work, but at 24 inches, or so it would be much easier.

Howard

Thanks Howard, that's some valuable advice. At the moment, I'm building just to build, and if they don't nosedive straight at the floor I consider that progress.

[Chris A.]

I have the Cleveland Models plan for the Supermarine S6B and it is in the wingspan range mentioned above. However the twin floats are huge with lots of drag. the horizontal stab will have to be enlarged and it will have to be built very light. In scale, it has a very high wing loading. Getting one to fly will really be a challenge.

[kittyfritters]

Chris,

Most Cleveland scale models are at 1:16 scale. (As are many of the Guillow kits.) This is my favorite scale since most subjects that I would want to model will have a 22 to 35 inch wing span, a size the is large enough for the model to have reasonable scale detail without being too structurally "dense". This is also a size that is relatively convenient to build and store while not being small enough to make trimming difficult.

Racing planes, however, are a different story. Even the mighty Schneider Trophy racers were rather small aircraft. They look larger because of the floats, but look at the attached pictures of the R3C and the Supermarine S5, and compare the size of the men to the size of the airplanes. (That's Jimmy Doolittle standing on the R3C float. He was 5 feet 6 inches tall.)

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If I were to kit Schneider Trophy racers I would do it at 1:12 scale. At that scale the S6B would have a wing span of 30 inches. Even the diminutive R3C would have a 22 inch wing span, which is OK since it's a biplane.

Cleveland kits, usually, were drawn with exceptional fidelity to scale, with every rib and stringer, and moveable control surfaces. This makes the smaller ones structurally "dense" and requires some lightening to make them flyable. Back in the 50s, when you could still buy Cleveland kits off the shelf in a hobby shop, I built a Widell-Williams 44 racer, (19-1/2 inch wing span) complete with all the ribs, and with a little lightening (although not as much as I would apply now) got it to fly rather well.



You can order the Cleveland plans at 1:12 scale or larger.

Keep 'Em Flying!

Howard

[Blacksheep214]

Would really like to see a Me109 G10, and a FW190 Dora (the long nosed focke wulf). Maybe a B model Mustang too.

[Johnny ace]

Hi,all.Ive been away for a couple years.The bug has bit me again.I remember these,actually built the D VII.I ,like many,would like them all to be re-issued.The first 6 that you mentioned,I would want them all.

[Balsa Pilot]

Greetings to all!

here we are almost 6 months down the road.

Any "NEW" news?

Id love to see how far along these airplanes are.

[akjgardner]

Hey Mark , Whats the Verdict ?